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The Edicates (part 2)

She's Gone and Worried Mind




Some more changes. A new Bass player, Joe Dodge.




Outside a bar called The Barn in  Zanesville 




The Edicates with Richard Shafer on rhythm guitar




The Edicates on the set prior to a TV4 Dance Party Show  (Larry Gates on Guitar, Tim on Hammond, Glen on drums and Joe on bass).




Jerry Rasor, host of Dance Party, dies of cancer. 




Just after the name change (L to R-Dan Westbrock, Glen Cataline, Tim Fleischer, and Joe Dodge)


The organ player was Mike Finks who lived a couple blocks away from Tim. Since Tim was new to the neighborhood, he hadn‘t met many of his new neighbors yet. Rocco’s band really didn’t have a lot going for them except for the organ sound, and Mike knew that. Glen candidly took Mike aside and asked him if he’d be interested in hooking up with The Edicates. He didn’t hesitate and the very next day The Edicate’s were working in a new organ player. The band now had five instrument playing members and it was starting to sound like a real band.

But in the meantime Fox wasn't letting up. He became harder and harder to work with. The other four made the decision that with the organ sound and Tim's progress as lead guitar player they could move forward as a four piece band. With very little anguish on their part they let Jim go. Jim the other hand was quite upset.

The band felt confident with their new sound and decided in 1966 to sign up for a battle of the bands to be held at Rollerland Skating Rink. They had played there often and had a loyal following. The contest would take weeks to complete as there were many many bands involved. Some of the bands  in the competition were very good including, The Bonnevilles, The Satellites, and The Living End. The new band that Jim Fox hooked up with was also competing. After weeks of eliminations The Edicates won first prize which was a recording contract at Mus-I-Col Studios in Columbus and $250 cash.   

The recording contract stipulated that only original songs could be recorded, and it specified a timeframe that was quickly approaching. Glen and Tim got busy and in one weekend co-wrote She's Gone* and Worried Mind. They neither had done any writing so it was a "learn as you go" process very much like the process used for learning their respective instruments. The whole recording experience was invaluable for the young musicians. When the record was released in 1967 it was played a few times on the local stations, and a few copies were sold in record stores but it faded quickly and the band got back to the business of playing live gigs.     
 
Soon there were more personnel problems and Mike Fitzgerald would need to be replaced. Mike was having girlfriend issues that were interfering with the band so everyone mutually agreed that it would be best for Mike to quit. Enter Joe Dodge. Joe would be the youngest member and he brought a refreshing sound to The Edicates. Joe was great musician who came from a musical family and he opened the bands eyes up to some new material. Once Joe was worked in the band had a unique and fresh sound. 

In 1968 the band became the WLWC-TV4 Dance Party house band. On Saturday mornings they would take the stage with local celebrity Jerry Rasor, to broadcast Columbus' own version of American Bandstand. They once played on the show with Kenny Rogers and The First Edition who were promoting their new song "What Condition My Condition Was In".

The band was playing a lot; over 100 gigs a year. They were also becoming relatively well known, when in early 1969 it would be necessary for Mike Finks to make his exit.  Mike simply didn't want to devote as much time to music as the others did. A shortage of keyboard players at the time prompted Tim to give up lead guitar in favor of the Hammond organ. Ever since Mike Finks first joined the band Tim had been drawn towards the keyboard, so he was happy to make the switch. Over the next several months the band auditioned, hired, and fired more than one guitar player. None seemed to work out until 1970 when the ex-lead guitar player from a popular soul band The Metronomes was hired on. Larry Gates would be the last official personnel change that "The Edicates" would go through. He would also eventually become Tim's brother-in-law.

The Edicates had been together for almost 5 years, and they continued to play throughout Ohio, and occasionally in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Indiana. Larry was used to running his own band, The Metronomes. Not unlike many musicians who have led their own bands, it's often difficult to conform to how a new band, that you are no longer in charge of,  operates. This became true with Larry. Larry was a great guy who went to college with Tim and Glen and eventually married Tim's sister-in-law. But things just didn't work out band-wise and Larry was replaced by yet another local guitar player named Dan Westbrock. 

Dan was the ex-lead guitar player and vocalist for a band called The Dubonettes. The Edicates and The Dubonettes oftentimes shared the stage at a Newark bar called the Club Kno Place, ran by Mel Bascomb.  This is where Glen and Tim first met Dan. The Club Kno Place would always have two bands each weekend night. As one band took a break the other one would play their set. It was always a packed house and a great venue for bands. Dan added  strong high range voice to the band which blended nicely with Tim's and Glen's voices. This is when the band, at the suggestion of Dynamic Entertainment, changed its name to BOXCAR.     

BOXCAR played at all the local night spots in Columbus and surrounding areas including The Castle, The Sugar Shack and many others. They had a solid sound with great vocal harmonies and played everything from Chicago to Procol Harum. Boxcar was short lived however and at the end of 1972 the band broke up. This was the point where everyone, including Tim and Glen went their separate ways. 

Glen ended up joining a band called Sky King and eventually went on to be the Drummer of The GODZ. They released a couple of very good albums and regionally were very popular.  Joe spent some time in Germany in the armed forces before getting involved in music again. Tim took a five year break from performing to start a family. He didn't venture back out into the music world until 1977 with bands like Circus, Skyline,The Works and Soul Kitch'n.  Dan later got involved in various music related projects.  

The Edicates (and BOXCAR) were now gone, but most of these guys would cross paths again down the road.  More to come at a later date!!!

                                                                           *  She's Gone was featured on a compilation CD entitled Gravel
                                                                                     Volume 2.  The CD is a limited edition that features 
                                                                                           30 of what is considered to be the top Garage 
                                                                                                  Bands in the U.S. The Edicates  are 
                                                                                                        the only local band featured. 

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